You sound like you’re looking for a PvE build, Keitan, in whhase, if it were me, I would start out experimenting with a build like so. You staylassy, Shaman.Cool. I will try that. What is the differee between 1 and 5 points in maelstrom weapon though? Says same thing with all 5 points. Seems like a waste of 4 points. ALso is feral spiritsool? Link to this t 15th 2008 5:30pm Edited: t 15th 2008 5:33pm : Logged Reply to this Ailitardif, Star BreakerSageUser’s Journal1113 Good Keitan wroteool. I will try that. What is the differee between 1 and 5 points in maelstrom weapon though? Says same thing with all 5 points. Seems like a waste of 4 points. ALso is feral spiritsool? I think that’s a bug…it should be 100% for 55. I only used feral spirits a few times in beta and they were prettyool…I didn’t use any addons in beta so I don’t know about how mh damage they do, but I’ve heard they are OP right now (don’t tell blizz) Edit: i’m wrong on the maelstrom…20% is right (4,8,12,16,20%) (stks up to five times for instantast) Ailitardif, Star Breaker wrote:Keitan wroteool. I will try that. What is the differee between 1 and 5 points in maelstrom weapon though? Says same thing with all 5 points. Seems like a waste of 4 points. ALso is feral spiritsool? I think that’s a bug…it should be 100% for 55. I only used feral spirits a few times in beta and they were prettyool…I didn’t use any addons in beta so I don’t know about how mh damage they do, but I’ve heard they are OP right now (don’t tell blizz) Edit: i’m wrong on the maelstrom…20% is right (4,8,12,16,20%) (stks up to five times for instantast) Regardless of whether or not Feral Spirits isool (bloody awesome, if you’reurious), you’re going to want 55 Maelstrom Weapon for PvE anyways, and you’d hard pressed to find a bigger DPS irease for a single point than what youould get by just taking Feral Spirits afterwards. Feral Spirits is the ability Enhaers are going to be using from now on when partyraid leadersall forooldowns andor a fast burn-down.

Ok, I see that my link didn’t work right. What I did was remove 4 points fromoussion and put them into 22 Guardian Totems and 22 Earthen Power. Link to this t 15th 2008 4:08am Edited: t 15th 2008 4:26am : Logged Reply to this gpyfbholar782 Good I’m trying this sp out due to the shamanhanges.AndOr this! This might be kinda ne too. I’m “glad” (saast skill ireased) blizz unintentionally gave my favoritelass, “flexability” and “balae” in persptive to otherlasses. Kinda my take on the new shaman talents and updates! Gpyfb, I love the proposed builds you have there! Link to this t 15th 2008 3:00pm : Logged Reply to this Keitanholar166 Dent The rogue side of the forums have some pretty awesome suggestions on builds for 3.02 but I am not seeing a lot of ne shammie builds kking around from people’s experiees so far. I was doing a ne Enh build that I was enjoying before the updateame out, but now I don’t know where to go that might help with the whole shammie doing ne damage in a run type thing. Are we useless now in 3.02? Is that why there are no good builds kking around for dps style running? Hoping peoplean help with an Enh build thatan smk some elite guys around and help a partyraid out at the same time and stillome out looking semilassy. lol. Before the update I did some pretty nasty things in a run, just lost as to how to keep things going the same with the update, or even if it is remotely possible. Link to this t 15th 2008 3:33pm : Logged Reply to this Gaudionholar2377 Dent

I went to the effort to get Legy, to try and PvP with a good 2H weapon. While its not very efftive in most situations, swihing to my 2H to one shot a sh*tty geared priest in WSG with huge WFrits is just plain funny. I got ahold of 2 good 1H weaps too, but ill forever have a 2H weap in my pks for the right moment. ^_^I was thinking this. I leveled 1-70 ele before going enhae but prefer it now. Gavinitis Sp What do you guysgals think? I was thinking I would try something similar. As I like to PVP in BG’s,all me mashist if you like, I think I will pull the 2 points from Imp WF totem or fromoussion and put them into Guardian Totems, and another 2 points fromoussion and put them into Earthen Power. It should look like this. I hope this link works. www.worldofwaraftominfoclass…00000000000 I don’t know if the snare removal from Earthen Power will be worth the points, or if it will be just as useless as the redtion in the duration of movement slowing effts that toughness provides. I spced for toughness when this firstame out and found it to beompletely useless. I wonder if Earthen Power will even be desireable to me as the Spirit Wolves will allow freedom from movement impairing effts twe during the 45 sonds they are out will be available not to mention the sexy bonuse to str and agi that the SoE totem will provide or the nissity of the tremor totem to removing fear. There’s always re-spcing after I find out what works for me. Link to this t 14th 2008 12:08pm : Logged Reply to this Kellindrossholar115 Dent

Let’sall it too mh rum… I’monfused. What you’re overlooking is the ft that all of the Shaman’s abilities are based on the weapon damage of a single swing, not DPS. Stormstrike is an instant hit with both weapons. Lava Lash is a hit of your off-hand weapon. Windfury is two extra attks with +AP. The slower your weapons, the harder all of those abilities will hit. The faster your weapons, the weaker the hits of all those abilities. So while it’s true that you might hieve a more optimal WF tivation rate with spifallyalibrated fast weapons, you’re going to be hitting less with every other ability in your arsenal, meaning you’ll either have a miniule net gain in DPS or, more likely, a net loss. Haste, however, is different than weapon speed. Haste makes you swing faster without altering the base speed or, more importantly, without altering the base weapon damage on a single-swing, per-hit basis. Bottom line: haste = good, slow weapons = good, fast weapons = bad.Thank you!!! A barrell of rum for you too! So Solo work, Wep WF both weps, drop Strenght of Earth (+str and +agi), Windfury (wep haste), Fire tot (searing), and…. well I get a little lost as to what theookieutter is here, but I usually plop a mana tot down (if I remember). That good? Again thank you for taking the time to explain it, in a way that makes see to me.flame tongue totem will help too, more spell damage and more dps for your melee andasters in your group. Link to this t 28th 2008 8:42pm : Logged Reply to this FatFreeBeefholar38 Good

This is a good point; something other’s have tohed on that deserves emphasis. One of the main advantages of a retribution paladin in a raid situation is not just the dps that they bring, but also the advantages to the whole raid. Satified ret aura – a +3% to EVERYONE’S damage isn’t too shabby – just bause it doesn’t show up dirtly on your dps meter doesn’t mean that you’re not responsible for that damage beingaused. The blessings; the seals; the judgements; the off-heals (eg. diving storm); replenishment; heart of therusader… ompare this to our dpsompetitors, the mage. What do they get? Free water. So just bause a ret pala may not be topping the dpshart does not mean they are not performing a very valuable role in the raid. If you are vain enough to worry about your ereal dps, take that 3% off everyone else’s damage and add it to yours. Go further, and look at your position on the healing meter; very fewlasses will have that same balae of damage and healing, for everyone else it will be one or the other. So retridins are not “bad” just bause they don’t top the healing meter. Their role in the raid just goes beyond omgimbadpsZOR. So no, Seal of Blood needn’t be tuned to the highestommon denominator. I’m sure every player of everylass thinks they should be topping the dpsharts, and the massive damage outputs of hunters and mages may well be beyond that retridins’s reh. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t as good as the otherlasses in their role. And yes, it might be that the kk from SoB or JoB is a little steep. And it may be that Somm needs rebalaing. But this is a tuning issue, not aoept issue.

Marked you down for the use of “QQ”, I hate that phrase. Patronisingly trivialising a genuineomplaint doesn’t make you right.

Ret pala DPS is never the highest irresptive of SoBSotM

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To be honest it’s kind of hard toomment on your build bause you have spend your points into all three trees. It would be better tohoose one sp tooentrate on. What play style are you using to quest? Are you doing your questing as aat or are you mainlyasting Wrath and Moonfire. As you are sp’d right now you are not stong in anything. My suggestion would be tohoose betweenasting and Melee and put the points in the Balae or Feral tree to reflt thathoe. I was spending points, at first, to try to have an “all around”harter. But I find I am now playing purely feral and mostly inat form, whh I love, bear form I haven’t done mh with, therefore haven’t gotten even “good” at it.) I didn’t look at your gear, but if you know a leatherworker maybe theyan make you some upgrades. Or a jewerafter for ring and nkle upgrades. Just a thought.If you do go Feral, I would say that gear is only mildly important. If you fus on StrAgi and a bit of Stam, you should be doing fine even if some of your gear falls behind. Feral forms have a base damage output that you’ll get regardless of your gear whh sorta makes us the strongestlass while naked (yay!). Anyway, what I mean to say is that upgrades are ne and you might wanna hit up the AH every one in a while, but don’t stress it too mh. Fixing your talents will probably solve most of yoururrent problems. I would suggest a slightly different build from what Galen ed. Shredding Attks -> Brutal Impt,ause you’ll never Shred while solo. A longer emergey stun or opener on an elite is overall more useful while leveling. Thk Hide droppedause I never really thought it worthwhile for leveling. Also dropping Survival Institsause I never had it for leveling and didn’t really struggle, though itould be ne, espially for a single point. Took Predatory Strikes and 1 point of Infted Woundsause biggerrits is good and preventing mobs from running away is ne too (though youould use the Rake glyph for the same efft).

Your build is a little off, whh may be leading to you having more trouble doing quests at yoururrent levelompared to those with a pure sp. Sie you put more points into feral and most of your gear looks to be gearing that way, here is what a feral buildan look like at your level. Several points are up to your diretion, but the most important thing is that you get down to mangle. It’s the bread and butter of a feral build and will irease your ability to down mobs by a huge amount. Feral Build For this build you will be looking for gear that has stats in this order Agility > Strength > Attk power >rit > Stamina You will kill mobs by Faerie Fire on the way in, Mangle until dead. Most mobs will only last a few hits if your gear is anywherelose to your level. A lot of your gear is very, very low for your level. You most definitely should have repled them already. I don’t want to seem harsh, but wearing a level 20 nkpie at level 55 is generally unceptable. There is no way yououldn’t have found a better pie either through a random drop, or through a quest reward. If you want to go Boomkin, here is a good leveling sp Balae build For this build, you will be looking for gear that has stats in this order Spellpower > Intellt > Spirit >rit Rating > Stamina (Until you reh outlands, you will not see many pies with Hit Rating. When you do start seeing them, the addition is marginal until endgame whenif you do herosraiding) Overall, if someone saw you out running around doing level 55 quests in the gear you have now, they would most likely assume that you bought the count off E-bay. With that said, I respt everyone’s individual way to reh the final destination. Glad youame here to help, I’m afraid Outlands would have been brutal for you if you had notome here for information to upgrade your gearsp before then. Good lk and happy hunting.

So I’m pretty eited about the new talents in Resto PvP, although not to sure what to think about the new lifebloom. The majority of thehanges do seem to be buffs though. Being able toast entangling roots without foing the shapeshift out will be ne, also the ireased armor will definetly help us out. Improved barkskin + subtletyould save us during thoserital innervates that we need. I’murious as to what you other arena healing druids will be doing for talents as Ian see so many options out there. onserving mana will be important for us. How many of you will be spcing 23 Dreamstate and 33 Imp Treeform(or ve versa) for the high mana regen? Or will any of you guys be still going a hybrid feralresto build with the feral nerfs, mainly primal tenity, although survival institsooldown has been lowered whh is ne.(any others) What will you guys be setting up your talents as? 1000g for the dual sp and we want to make sure we get perft! I play WoW to play the game. That is, I play not to rush to level or rhes, but generally speaking, to quest and see the world. To my way of thinking, it’s like taking a tr, youan go by the en route and take your time or youan “get there” by the fastest means possible, if the point of going somewhere is simply to arrive at a destination, there’s nothing wrong with freeways, interstates, and turnpikes. But, to me, sie I play to enjoy the entire ride, whh sometimes means learning things by trial and error, I may not make the wisesthoes. But even on a road tr, I amertainly not adverse to using a map or asking dirtions. I just don’t have the time toomb every board to find out every tweak. I want to level myharters, don’t get me wrong, but I do enjoy trying to get there with the ammount of time spent rehing endgameontent unimportant. The tr is the thing, to me. Not to say that speed leveling is bad or that someone else’s reasons to play are wrong, sie everyone’s path is different, based on different reasons they have individually for playing. I work a lot of hours and life’s intrusions into my playing time are many, so I get to play a few hours here and there. I’ve enjoyed most quests, but I do admit that low drop rates and some quests of a given level being a lot harder than others of the same level do get frustrating, but it’s fun, to me, to find a way that whatever toon I’m playingan complish the goal with their own uniquelass abilities. All that being said, I’d love someomments on my druid build from the many more experieed and knowlegable players here. www.wowarmoryomcharter-…;n=Laquanda Thanks for your time. Z

Arex I’m guessing your guild isapped onontent. I know entirely how you feel. For the sond night in a row myself and a few guildies have spent a few hours in Dalaran taking turns flying up over theity and then dropping to our deaths trying to land ourorpse in the middle of the rest. Oh, and our GM spends hours every day jumping off Dalaran on his traveler’s mammoth. I’m hoping he isn’t aware of thehange from vehle to mount bause if he doesn’t know youan bet your ass I’ll be goading him into jumping off again oe the pah hits. My druid is my main too and I do all my farming on him. I’ve got an 80 DK as well but I do almost nothing on him, the casional hero or 10 man Naxx run. And I’ve been leveling a shadow priest too, got him to 37 now but I’m finding it a little boring and not leveling as mh or as fast as Iould beonsidering the boost from the BoA shoulders and the guidae of QuestHelper. The rotation is just…boring. Buff self, Holy Fire, Devouring Plague, SW: Pain then Mind Flay to death. Over and over and over and over……… Anyway, I’m a fellow bored druid. Have no fear Arex, for Ulduar approheth!ArexLovesPie wrote: Alas, bored druids are bored. Not tomorrow, you aren’t

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